Discontent or just another reason for violence?

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    Insults to Islam ignite violence in Pakistan, 15 killed

    ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Muslim protests against insults to the Prophet Mohammad turned violent in Pakistan, where at least 15 people were killed on Friday, the Muslim day of prayer, but remained mostly peaceful in other Islamic countries.

    In France, where the publication of cartoons denigrating the Prophet stoked anger over an anti-Islam video made in California, authorities banned all protests over the issue.

    "There will be strictly no exceptions. Demonstrations will be banned and broken up," said Interior Minister Manuel Valls.

    Tunisia's Islamist-led government also banned protests against the images published by French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo. Four people were killed and almost 30 wounded last week when the U.S. embassy was stormed in a protest over the film.

    Many Western and Muslim politicians and clerics have appealed for calm, denouncing those behind the mockery of the Prophet, but also condemning violent reactions to it.

    At street level, Muslims enraged by attacks on their faith spoke of a culture war against those in the West who put rights to freedom of expression before religious sensitivities.

    "They hate him (the Prophet Mohammad) and show this through their continued works in the West, through their writings, cartoons, films and the way they launch war against him in schools," said Abdessalam Abdullah, a preacher at a mosque in Beirut's Palestinian refugee camp of Bourj al-Barajneh.

    Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet blasphemous.

    Western diplomatic missions in Muslim nations tightened security ahead of Friday prayers. France ordered embassies, schools and cultural centres to close in a score of countries and Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said some would stay shut over the weekend.

    "CUT HIM IN PIECES"

    In Pakistan, tens of thousands of people joined protests encouraged by the government in several cities including Islamabad, Karachi, Peshawar, Lahore, Multan and Muzaffarabad.

    The bloodiest unrest erupted in the southern city of Karachi, where 10 people were killed, including three policemen, and more than 100 wounded, according to Allah Bachayo Memon, spokesman of the chief minister of Sindh province. He said about 20 vehicles, three banks and five cinemas were set on fire.

    Crowds set two cinemas ablaze and ransacked shops in the northwestern city of Peshawar, clashing with riot police who fired tear gas. At least five people were killed.

    In Mardan in the northwest, police said a Christian church was set on fire and several people hurt.

    Mohammed Tariq Khan, a protester in Islamabad, said: "Our demand is that whoever has blasphemed against our holy Prophet should be handed over to us so we can cut him up into tiny pieces in front of the entire nation."

    Security forces fired in the air in Peshawar and the eastern city of Lahore to keep protesters away from U.S. consulates. Police fired tear gas at about 1,000 protesters in Islamabad.

    The U.S. embassy in Pakistan has run television spots, one featuring Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying the government had nothing to do with the film about Mohammad.

    Pakistan had declared Friday a "Day of Love" for the Prophet and Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf said an attack on Islam's founder was "an attack on the whole 1.5 billion Muslims".

    The Foreign Ministry summoned the U.S. chargé d'affaires to lodge a protest over the video posted on YouTube, the latest in an array of irritants poisoning U.S.-Pakistani relations.

    In neighbouring Afghanistan, police contacted religious and community leaders to try to prevent bloodshed. Protests in Kabul and the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif only attracted a few hundred people and no violence was reported, but a cleric told one crowd: "If you kill Americans, it's legal and allowable."

    About 10,000 Islamists gathered in the Bangladeshi capital Dhaka after Friday prayers, chanting slogans and burning U.S. and French flags and an effigy of U.S. President Barack Obama.

    PEACEFUL PROTESTS

    Protests went off peacefully in the Arab world, where last week several embassies were attacked and the U.S. envoy to Libya was killed in an initial burst of unrest over the film.

    Thousands of Libyans marched in Benghazi on Friday in support of democracy and against the Islamist militias that Washington blames for the attack on the U.S. consulate last week that killed four Americans including the ambassador. Authorities said eight people in total had been arrested over the attack.

    Later, pro-government demonstrators stormed the headquarters of the Islamist Ansar al-Sharia militia, aiming to evict fighters from the site.

    A few dozen Egyptians protested near the French embassy in Cairo, but were kept away from the premises by police deployed in large numbers to avoid a repeat of violence at the U.S. embassy last week.

    Mainstream Islamic leaders in Egypt, where Islamist parties have moved to the heart of government since Hosni Mubarak was toppled, have expressed outrage, but urged a peaceful response.

    In remarks to Reuters, the leader of the Nour Party, one of the biggest ultraorthodox Islamist parties in Egypt, echoed calls for the criminalisation of insults to religions including Islam. But he said it was important to separate between an offender and an entire society.

    "The reasonable people in the West outnumber the thoughtless," said Emad Abdel Ghafour. "Contact should be kept up with the reasonable people," he added. "It is unreasonable that reactions come through arson and killing. We all suffer and are affected by these acts," he said.

    In Yemen, where the U.S. embassy was stormed last week, several hundred Shi'ite protesters chanted anti-American slogans, but riot police blocked the route to the embassy.

    Anger over the film brought several thousand Shi'ites and Sunnis together in a rare show of sectarian unity in Iraq's southern city of Basra, where they burnt U.S. and Israeli flags.

    Thousands marched against the film on Thursday in a district of eastern Saudi Arabia where members of the Shi'ite Muslim minority have staged anti-government demonstrations since last year, a local activist said. Photographs of the march showed protesters burning American flags.

    Lebanon's Hezbollah-run al-Manar television showed thousands of people waving Lebanese and yellow Hezbollah flags as they marched past the Roman ruins of Baalbek and shouted slogans such as "Death to America, death to those who insult the Prophet".

    Several hundred people demonstrated peacefully in the southwest German city of Freiburg. Some carried placards reading "Our Prophet Mohammad is taboo".

    "Both the film and the cartoons are malicious and deliberately provocative. The film particularly portrays a disgracefully distorted image of Muslims," Rupert Colville, spokesman for U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay, told a news briefing in Geneva.

    He said Pillay upheld people's right to protest peacefully, but saw no justification for violent and destructive reactions.

    "In the case of Charlie Hebdo, given that they knew perfectly what happened in response to the film last week, it seems doubly irresponsible on their part to have published these cartoons," Colville said of the French magazine.
     
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    History repeat itself, it's always blood shed when come to this kind of issues to them. I really don't understand the rationale behind all this violence, what happen to the teaching of their religion that promote peace ? :confused2:
     
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    well...
    its not like there's no invasion/battle involved in their early stage of "pilgrimage"... :hrmz:
    Muhammad
    Military career of Muhammad
    List of expeditions of Muhammad
     
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    well...
    peace or no peace...
    i'm glad there's no forceful submission practiced in Buddhism but yet still able to endure millenniums & spread all over the world...
    something i'm very much proud of... :thumbs_up:
     
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    This topic has been blocked by most islamic country.

    They do not want answer or explaination. They just want the man who did this video. They are a really very piece-full religion. Blindly followed:cool2:

    I am always surrounded with muslim. Their restriction are a wall of nuisance hindering non Islam to stay away. We can, not eat pork in front of them, not make any loud noise when they are doing prayers, not eating when they are fasting.

    They cannot come for non islam dinner or parties just like that. All cutleries must never be used by non Islam (due to pork), all animals kill or served must be done by Muslim. And we would still be separated with individual table.
     
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    also be mindful that other than porks, some other meats also they can't take...
    particularly amphibians or what they refer to as "haiwan 2 alam" (animals of 2 worlds) as these animals can live both on land & sea...
    i.e. certain type of crabs & ducks...
    even the process of animal slaughtering they also need consider before labeling them "halal"... :crazy-eyes:
    so better be wary when asking them for dinner...
    u dun wanna get stoned till death for serving the wrong dish... :heehee:
     
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    Blame it on the flawed teachings of the Abrahamic religions notably Islam.....that have been indoctrinated on their disciples known as "Muslims".....The Muslims will kill in the name of a imaginary god.....It's always about them....that their god is more superior than others....It's always that others must respect them and it's never about them respecting others....They will kill and destroy what they they termed as "infidels" and waged a jihad at the slightest provocation.....and yet they call their religion a religion of "peace"....what a joke.....

    Just look at their prayers.....? With all those loud speakers uttering the name of their god at the loudest pitch....just to tell others their god is the greatest.....What kind of religion and teachings are these....? And that one on 72 virgins.....What a crap....I wonder.....

    When those fanatic Muslims known as "Talibans" destroyed the monumental standing Buddha statues in Afghanistan.....did anyone see any Buddhist killing the Muslims....???

    I rest my case....:mad2:
     
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    There is this case of LP Meechai temple in Jenjarom, Selangor Malaysia, I think some will know the reason for Buddha statue not able to be construct until finish due to objection from the local chief of mosque that forbid the Buddha statue height higher than their mosque. Hence the buidling n Buddha statue project is halted halfway. That's happened few years back, I am not sure what's the progress now.
     
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    not more superior... u got it wrong bro...
    it's THE ONLY god... they dun accept any other than theirs...
    and muslim is THE ONLY religion in this world...
    others are all occults to them... :quote::crazy-eyes:
    they're really very peaceful religion... as long as u are 1 of them lo... :heehee:
     
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    Quoted aren't true in singapore. Where are you?
     
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    Sensitive to this discuss about this topic in this open forum thread will be closed

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